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Indo-US Nuclear Treaty: Its Implications
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20	uma on Thursday, August 07, 2008 : foolish action
19	spanki on Wednesday, July 23, 2008 : my friend u know nothing abt the companies who will trade nuclear material,or nuclear equipments with india advantages of deal>> 1.more power 2.new technology 3.employment>coz companies like tata , l&t,Ntpc etc all indian have sufficient knowlege to construct there own N plants ,so my friend no foreign companies will have a direct hold on india,all these indian companies will provide more employement. 4.india can turn off this deal by 2030 or even early,if it develops technical know how to develop power with thorium
18	TTMATHEW on Friday, November 30, 2007 : No nuclear states (US, Russia, France, UK and China) supplies weapon grade or reactor grade nuclear fuel to each other for nuclear testing or making nuclear bomb. Therefore it may be foolish to believe that US will supply nuclear fuel to India for military purpose. They have to ensure that the fuel supplied is continuously monitared by an US sponsored international agency like IAEA. No nuclear states has attained nuclear technology by the help of other nuclear states for making nuclear weapons. They have indigienious techonology for that. Hence it may be folish for India to believe that we can use US technology for assisting our nuclear weapon programme. That is why US asked India to separate Military and civilian reactors before implimenting the act and asked India to bring the civilian reactors under contnued international monitaring. It may be noted that US has indirectly agreed India as a nuclear state by allowing India to continue military nuclear programme simultaneously with civilian nuclear co-operation. Past experience force us to think that US is not willing to transfer any duel use technology (military and civilian) to any other country. Therefore we should not think that they will transfer us any nuclear technology that India is not pocessing now. That means evenwhen US help us to make civilian nuclear reactors they will not transfer any new technology to India in this area. What they do is they will make reactors and supply fuel to it under their continued supervision. We may have exclusive right only for electricty produced there. In this context we may be cautious about the reactors that, they are not outdated ones which US is thinking to dispose of from their country. The disposal of nuclear waste is a big and unsolved problem in developed countries. In other words we should not allove US to use India as a nuclear waste dumping place. The 123 agreement says only about civilian nuclear co-operation which means supply of U233 and light water reactors to India. Moreover the right for fuel recycling seams to be benificial to us. Besides it is silent about the military nuclear technology part. But it has a close that it will be bound to Hyde Act passed by US senette which says US will have the right to stop not only the supply of neclear fuel but also can ask to return the technology and ecquipments that are supplied to us when India opt for a Pochran III. In the 123 agreement US did not deny India the right to have a nuclear test. In the Hyde act US preserve its right to suspend the agreement and preasurise othe NPT members to follow them. India do not have a chance to go to international court for unilateral cancellation of the deal. India had Pochran II on 1998 and we ave collected all datas at that time so that we do not want a third test unless we want to test a nuclear fusion technology which is on developing stage. India drew its three-stage nuclear power programme, because of insufficient uranium reserves of which the first stage using U233 is almost completed. The second stage using recycled plutonium from first stage fuel waste is on the way. The technology for the third stage is under development (in completion stage but still take years to be operational on industrial basis) which uses thorium (from which U233 can be breaded). Once the three stage fuel cycle is complete we will be self reliant on nuclear fuel. Note that thorium is abondant in indian plate. At present India has limited resources for U233 the fuel for first stage nuclear power programme and deliberately in nead of additional U233 from other countries. If it is not obtained on abondance, not only our three stage nuclear power programme but also the production of nuclear power for industry will be delayed which in turns affect our industrial growth. This is the situation under which the so called United States-India Peaceful Atomic Energy Cooperation Act become relevant. Once India escape from this difficulty we will reach to a position in which we have enough fuel for outside sale. At that stage evenif we have a Pochran III, we will be able to meat all challenges at that time. For that we must be carefull in fast developing the three-stage nuclear power programme even in the circumstance of abondantly available U233 by US help. They will surely insist on no to spent money on three-stage nuclear power programme because of ensured supply of U233. If the polititions fall in this US trap we will not be able to escape from their net. From past experience (in the case of ISRO and DRDO) the indian administrators fell in similar traps. We should have the political will not to fall in similar traps. Now India is isolated in many duel use technology areas such as space research nuclear technology, super computer technology, aviation technonogy etc. The withdrawal of sanctions against Delhi will help India in many ways. It will open the gates for Indo-US cooperation in lucrative space research and scientific c....
17	V.Mironi on Friday, October 26, 2007 : Through this deal American big business will dump uranium and connected technology on the Indian atomic energy estate. After the Russian disaster at Chernobyl and the terrible Three Mile Island catastrophe (March 1979), most of Europe and America cried a halt on their nuclear generation projects. If reports are correct, France is itself no longer expanding atomic power and Germany is planning to close down its existing reactors. And in India, we are falling prey to the US private nuclear industry which has had no business in America since 1979.
16	R. Sharma on Thursday, September 27, 2007 : Purohit: It is not a matter of right or left. Who is gaining from 10 percent growth rate: not the poor people, about 75 percent of the population, but the middle class. What is the cause of sudden rise in growth rate: massive short term borrowings and short term investments by foreign pension funds, which can run away within a few days if India"s balance of payment situation would go bad. It has happened in 1986 also: India had 10 percent growth but it went bankrupt within three years. Thus, it is possible that India will go bankrupt once again in 2009.
15	ANKIT on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 : after signing this treaty ,india will agin be ruled by britishers
14	Purohit on Monday, September 03, 2007 : I do not agree with your article...I may not be knowing much about nuclear deal in detail but whatever you have written about 1991 and 1995 is totally wrong...after 1991 when liberalization took place then only India"s economy took off and look where we are today and compare it with the economy of 1991...today we are much developed, our GDP gone up, standard of living is high, job oppourtunities is more...before 1991 getting a phone line connection used to take years and owning a phone was considered status symbol, now even auto drivers have mobiles...we had only ambasadors, fiat and maruti to choose from, now we dont know which car is not available in India...earlier buying a two wheeler used to take years, now you know...look at the products and services of that time and compare it with now...did we have ATM and internet banking prior to 1991...things have changed for the good after 1991...today India is an IT superpower...look at our forex reserves...yes i agree that a large section of our society has not benefitted much from all this but thats because they themselves did not care for their improvement...talking about the backward castes, they do not take care of their childrens" education just give birth to many of them and leave them...govt. has not been able to make primary education strong at grassroot level but to play votebank policy give reservations at post graduation level which is of no use...politics has been root cause of this problems and not to mention the people who demand to be given OBC status so that they get unreasonable benefits like the gujjars...these so called backward people do not want to get something out of hard work but only through reservations...they have only themselves to blame for their downfall...to achieve something one needs to put lot of hard labour...before saying anything about 1991 and 1995 see the facts and give correct picture...looks like you have a leftist attitude which is actually ruining India..
13	R. Sharma on Sunday, August 19, 2007 : Pakistan does not any testing, as it is geting ready-made nuclear weapons from China. China is accepted by the USa as a nuclear power, but USa will not give that status to India.
12	Gidwani on Saturday, August 18, 2007 : If, in fact, it is true that India would be prevented from conducting nuclear tests while Pakistan and China have no restrictions on testing, then it is a fact the cuerrnt Indian government is indeed guilty of treason.
11	R. Sharma on Friday, August 17, 2007 : Australian Prime Minister John Howard said the "strict safeguards" India has to follow to obtain uranium supplies from Sydney would have the same effect of that country signing the nuclear non-proliferation treaty (NPT).
10	R. Sharma on Friday, August 17, 2007 : “We have described the Prime Minister’s statement (on 123) as a bundle of white lies. His (Mukherjee’s) statement today continues with those untruths,” Yaswant Sinha said. Sinha said US’ India-specific Hyde Act will affect India’s nuclear and strategic programmes. “It will prohibit India from carrying out even (atomic) lab tests. ... It aims to cap, rollback and eliminate India’s nuclear weapons programme,” he said.
9	V.Mironi on Thursday, August 16, 2007 : "There is nothing in the bilateral agreement that the government has entered with the US that will tie the hands of a future government to undertake a nuclear test," External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee. Is he a liar or a Stupid???
8	S.Ghosh on Thursday, August 16, 2007 : Yet another lie of Man Mohan Singh is now exposed. This man is not fit to be the PM. What a brilliant combination at the 60 years of independence. A Loan Defaulter as the President, a Slave for the PM and a Jehadi for the Vice President.
7	V.Mironi on Thursday, August 16, 2007 : What is our future? BJP is a dead party. Congress is a party of slaves. CPI(M) will support Congress, after some big mouth. SP SSP are criminals. What should the people do? If this dreadful situation will persists, I am sure Kashmir will be an independent Muslim country very soon; North eastern states will be independent Christian countries. The Rest of India will still have 140 million Muslims, sharing power just like Lebanon. In a few years time, India will be Lebanon.
6	R. Sharma on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 : If a Prime Minister lies to the Parliament he must be impeached. Man Mohan Sign should be impeached, as he has lied to the parliament. The United States has made it clear that the civil nuclear energy cooperation deal with India will be "terminated" if New Delhi conducts an atomic test. India has been maintaining that the 123 Agreement is silent on the issue of testing. Prime Minister Manmohan Singh [Images] told Parliament on Monday that the agreement to operationalise the civilian nuclear deal will not affect India"s right to undertake future nuclear tests. "Let me hence reiterate once again that a decision to undertake future nuclear test would be our sovereign decision, one that rests solely with the government," Dr Singh said. "The proposed 123 Agreement has provisions in it that in an event of a nuclear test by India, then all nuclear cooperation is terminated," US State Department Spokesman Sean McCormack said on Tuesday. The spokesman also said there is "provision for return of all materials, including reprocessed material covered by the agreement."
5	R.Sharma on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 : One should take legal action against Mon Mohan Singh for speaking complete falsehood in his independence day speech. He knows very well, he has sacrificed India"s nuclear weapons and Nuclear self sufficiency for American goodwill ( nothing else).
4	A.Moron on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 : "The deal does not make India a nuclear weapons state. We will be sitting outside the nuclear club board meeting on a stool. America has admitted it has no intention of making India a nuclear weapons state." Murli Monohar Joshi
3	S.Ghosh on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 : It is very strange in India. The Congress party members are opposed to Man Mohan but can do nothing. CPI(M) members are opposed to Yachuri-Karat, but can do nothing. BJP members are opposed to Advani-Jaswant Singh, but can do nothing. Where is democracy?
2	V.Mironi on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 : The hyprocracy of the Left and some senior members of the BJP is too obvious. Left will only shout but do nothing. Some BJP leaders only a few days ago were trying to get the credit for this deal, what they now oppose. People of India must have the right of a referendum. We cannot trust politicians.
1	R. Sharma on Wednesday, August 15, 2007 : Slaves will always behave like a slave. Man Mohan Singh behaves like a Khansama for George Bush. India is now reduced to one of the subordinate country.
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