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Secularism: Will Hindus Wake up Now?
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News Summary: The Indian Government, starting from secularism has steadily gone towards Minority appeasement. Finally, it appears to have settled in an anti-Hindu drive. The future of 85% of the population of India (Hindus) is bleak unless the present Government is replaced by a truly secular government. Will the majority wake up now at least?.....read more in: Secularism: Will Hindus Wake up Now?

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27 muralidhar V on Sep-17 :

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Is there any legal way to stop government in controlling temple wealth in a secular country while churches and mosques are untouched. Isn"t it injustice towards Hindus? Why are we not getting an expert legal opinion on it?
26 Manoj Sharma on Apr-28 :

Annie Besant exposed the atrocities committed by the Moplah rebels in Malabar as a fearless journalist. Let
us hear her describe an act and scene of rape in Malabar: "Words fail to express my feelings of indignation
and abhorrence which I experienced when I came to know of an instance of rape, committed by the rebels
under Chembrasseri Thangal. A respectable Nair lady at Melathur was stripped naked by the rebels in the
presence of her husband and brothers who were made to stand close by with their hands tied behind. When
they shut their eyes in abhorrence, they were compelled at the point of a sword to open their eyes and
witness the rape committed by the brute in their presence. I loathe even to write of such a mean action. This
instance of rape was communicated to me by one of her brothers confidentially. There are several instances
of such mean atrocities which are not revealed by people...."
2/3
Mahatma Gandhi at that time gave a great finding to the effect that everyJihadiis a bully and every Hindu a
coward. On the one hand he called every Hindu a coward and on the other hand he exhorted all the Hindus
to remain calm and non-violent even when they went all out to defend themselves against the attacking
Moplah Muslims. The truth is Mahatma Gandhi displayed all his courage only to suppress the Hindus. In so
far as the Muslims were concerned, he was a typical Hindu coward. He was mortally scared of them. So was
Jawaharlal Nehru. Therefore Gandhi had no moral sanction to talk about the cowardice of the Hindus. And
here is the callous, sadistic and barbarous message he gave to the Hindu victims of Moplah rebellion in
Young India of 29 September, 1921: "The ending of the Moplah revolt is a matter not only of urgency, but of
simple humanity. The Hindus must have the courage and the faith to feel that they can protect their religion in
spite of such fanatical eruptions. ... Be the Moplahs be ever so bad, they deserve to be treated as human
beings." By saying all this, Mahatma Gandhi broke the track record of Babar, Nadir Shah and Aurangazib in
the never ending vistas of Islamic compassion and Hindu fundamentalism.
25 ravi ranjan singh on Apr-21 :

I truly agree with it. If hindus want their existence to prevail,this is the last chance to wake up.these so called secular parties have always harmed hindus in the name of secularism.even though i respect PM Manmohan singh,but his comment that "muslim have first right over all the countries resources" is regrettable.We should not oppress any minority groups(christians or muslims,etc) but why should we hindus suffer.We are not asking for any special privileges but don"t snatch from us what we have and what we can have.if we are majority that"s not our fault,if we are more capable is it our fault,why should anybody get first preferance over me ,when we are competing from the same lot just because he is a muslim.
24 Anil on Apr-13 :

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Hey,

since you are interested in the subject I was woundering if you were familiar with the work of S.N. Balagangadhara and his research group on the same subject. I send you a link with a debate between him and some DU profs. But there is some more on the channel and you should read his book if you find any of that interesting.

http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CD50FC7A276689BB

Yours truly

Anil
23 MrWiggles on Apr-13 :

Nobody speaks clearer on secularism in India then S.N. Balagangadhara
22 Anil on Apr-13 :

Here also, a discussion on secularism in India that should interest anyone close to the subject.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=CD50FC7A276689BB
21 S.Ghosh on Apr-12 :

BJP is only using the name of Sri Ram but it supports "Hindutva" of Savarkar which is not Hinduism. Savarkar was not a Hindu, but a Rationalist just like EVK Periyer or AnnaDurai who were the enemies of the Hindu. Savarkar was a coward, who had apolosized several times to the British to get his own release and promised to be loyal servant of the British.
BJP is a party of the people who oppress the poor Hindus. It is a party of the Marwaris, Thakur, Ranabir Sena, Rajputs, Upper caste upper class Hindus. Everyone has seen how a few years ago the Upper class Marwari women beating up a lower class Hindu girl, who wanted to give a petition to Vajpayee.
BJP during its rule did nothing for the Hindus in Kashmir, in Bangladesh or in Sri Lanka but Vajpayee wanted to be another Nehru, talking about composite Hindu-Muslim culture; Advani likes Jinnah the butcher of the Hindus. Vajpayee invited Mussaraf twice as a long lost son.
BJP is setting up Hindus against Hindus. It has supported Biharis against Bengalis( Nitish Kumar destroying the Eastern and South Eastern Rlys). Now BJP supports Nepalese immigrants who are taking over the entire North Bengal.
RSS should establish a new Hindu party rejecting the corrupt BJP, who during its rule only gave away public assets to the business community for songs and allowed the business community to enrich itself at the expense of the poor people.


20 Truth Speaks on Apr-12 :

I fully endorse the views of M Patel and malathi. Muslims in India are united just because our SECULAR parties and media portray Hindus as enemies of Muslims. Even in our neighborhood, Pakistanis were united as their military was creating fear and hate against India and also against America. Now that the Pakistan is in the grip fears of Taliban and of collateral damage due to America"s attacks on Pakistan to fight Taliban, they are least scared about India, they don"t even regard India as a threat.

The shameful thing is Indian political parties like Congress, CPM, CPI, RJD, SP, BSP, TDP, DMK etc are doing the same job Pakistani military and ISI. That is all these SECULAR parties are creating fear against Hindus, RSS and BJP as similar to Pakistani military and ISI. Both have same objective - to stay/get the power. The pity is many Hindus are still divided on caste/region/linguistic basis.
19 arish sahani on Apr-11 :

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Very good facts .But we need to tell our brothers and sisters what they should do to stop all this injustice.
We need action plan for all and everyone how to get rid of these laws.
we need guidence
18 M Patel on Apr-05 :

Malathi made a good point. Muslims are only united when it come to islam. Otherwise, They have as many castes as hindus. All caste-based reservation reports (eg. mandal commission report or gujarat"s baxi commission report) provides a very long list of muslim castes eligible for OBC quota. Most muslim marraiges are arranged, within their own caste and often with a distinct cousin on mother"s side.
17 malathi on Apr-04 :

To S.Gosh, Whatever the reason first all Hindus must get united under BJP or RSS banner. The main unifying thread should be religion first and caste next. Don"t tell me all Muslims are united, Shias and Sunnis are never united and they kill each other like animals. But when it comes to Islam they are united and fight like lions to protect their religion. Caste discrimination will go away slowly with education and prosperity. It is not the political parties interest to eradicate caste syste, but it the duty of all Hindu religious leaders and they only can bring a change and can unify all Hindus like Adi Shankaracharya of second century B.C
16 Mrinal Mitra on Apr-04 :

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I fully agree to your views on Hindus in India and admire your indepth study and true factual information. I feel this is high time to start a nationwide awareness of this fact. I think, in this planet, only in India we have sdpecial provisions and rights for minorities or precisely for Muslims. But here in Canada I keep reading about oppression of Muslims by Hindus in India. On the contrary I never read what going on to Hindus in India"s neighbouring countries. This is indeed a very very serious issue for survival of Hindus in this planet.

Thanks a lot for your impartial, true and bold review.


15 S.Ghosh on Mar-29 :

It is not possible to unite the Hindus by the BJP, which is a party of the Marwaris, Thakurs, Ranavir Senas, the loan fedaulters, corrupt business community, who want to torture lower class and lower caste Hindus.
RSS must get rid of BJP and start a true Hindu Party which will have sympathy for the majority of the Hindus, who earns leass than Rs.20 Per day.


14 Dave on Mar-26 :

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What"s the use of writing this? What you wrote is a common knowledge. However, cowards have selected to be treated like thus in their own country. If you don"t agree then just turn the pages of history for umpteen centuries. First unite and have collective strength (can that happen? Never). If majority feels the minority appeasing is going on then it is shame and fault of majority since they chose it that way. It"s Hindu"s fault all the way - a very bitter pill to swallow my friend.
13 DR.P.L.NAWALKHA on Mar-25 :

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WITH PARTITION INDIA OPTED TO BE SECULAR STATE,WITH THE SOLE IDEA OF PEACEFUL LIVING OF ALL COMPONENTS OF PLURISTIC SOCIETY. SOWING OF TENDENCY TO APPEASE MINORITIES (BY RULING CONGRESS) WAS SEEN RIGHT FROM THE BEGINING.BUT SINCE THIS WAS NEVER FULL OF IRRELEVANCES,PEOPLE ALWAYS CONSIDERED IT AS A PART OF MINORITY WELFARE PROGRAMMES. WITH 4TH/5TH GENERAL ELECTIONS,MONOPOLY TO SWING FOR VICTORY WAS ON DECLINE FROM CONGRESS,AND MOVEMENT TO APPEASE MINORITIES BECAME PART OF CONGRESS"S DRUMBEATINGS AND IMPECCABLE AGENDA.THOSE TALKING OF REALISTIC PERCEPTION FOR ALL IN PLURISTIC INDIA OR UNIFORM CIVIL LAW AND ABOLITION OF RELIGION BASED NOMENCLATURES WERE BRANDED AS COMMUNALS.INDIRAGANDHI WAS QUITE FAIR AND BALANCING DESPITE HER DEPENDENCE ON MUSLIMS FOR VOTES.RAJEEV GANDHI,A NOVICE IN POLITICS WITH TOTAL UNAWARENESS OF GROUNDLEVEL REALITIES OF PLURISTIC INDIA,TRIGGERED ILLOGICS AND IRRATIONALITIE IN MINORITY TACKLING,EVIDENT BY SUCCUMBING TO PRESSURE IN SHAHO BANO CASE. EVER SINCE ILLOGICS AND NAKED LEVEL OBSCENITY OF APPEASEMENT TO MINORITIES BY CONGRESS AND ALLIES INCREASED TO UN BELIEVABLE LEVELS.PRESENT INSTANCES QUOTED BY YOU ARE PRICKING THE HEARTS OF HINDUS IN INDIA,IMPELLING US TO THINK WHETHER WE ARE LIVING IN SECULAR INDIA WITH GOVRNED BY TOTALLY ANTI-HINDU MINDSET PEOPLE. PRESENT UPA GOVT. HAVE BROKEN ALL RECORDS AND IS THE MOST COMMUNAL ONE.HINDUS HAVE TO WAKE UP FIRST, THEY MUST UNITE
12 V. V. S. Sarma on Mar-25 :

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Hindus of this country are fast becoming a minority and oppressed community. Today in states such as Andhra Pradesh, Christianity has
gained numbers to the extent that in 60 years of Independent India
their population percentage has increased from 2% to about 40%. To day evangelist Paul has started a political party and actor Chiranjeevi had
to use mother Theresa as an icon. The ruling party with Christians as Chief and education ministers has given subsidy for Christians for doing Bethelham yatra. It appears that in the near future the lord of seven hills has to satisfy with one or two hills with the rest shared by miscellaneous saints. Nobody in AP knows the names of Rishis but all schools are St Paul or St Peter or any other Christian saint.
11 V. V. S. Sarma on Mar-25 :

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Hindus of this country are fast becoming a minority and oppressed community. Today in states such as Andhra Pradesh, Christianity has
gained numbers to the extent that in 60 years of Independent India
their population percentage has increased from 2% to about 40%. To day evangelist Paul has started a political party and actor Chiranjeevi had
to use mother Theresa as an icon. The ruling party with Christians as Chief and education ministers has given subsidy for Christians for doing Bethelham yatra. It appears that in the near future the lord of seven hills has to satisfy with one or two hills with the rest shared by miscellaneous saints. Nobody in AP knows the names of Rishis but all schools are St Paul or St Peter or any other Christian saint.
10 srujana on Mar-25 :

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Hello Sir.Congratulations on writing this awesome article.Its really very good and you enlightened us with many facts which are not known to us.Even regarding the reservations too,I think the reservation business is killing the quality standards.Reservation should be given to the people who are in real need of it irrespective of the religion.I will forward your message to all my friends so that they take some decision.I think its time to take some big decisions.I hope all the people will wake up and do the justice to themselves not for others .Once again sir its really good article.
9 rajanganesh on Mar-25 :

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http://www.blogs. ivarta.com/ Secularism- In-India- Will-Hindus- Wake-up-Now/ blog-261. htm



sir,

With reference to the article i understand that you are working on the following cause

taking part in several social service activities supporting education of the underprivileged people, veda patasalas, etc. Presently, he is actively working toward the revival of Hindu consciousness among the Hindus in India. Unlike in the past, he does not feel guilty of being a Hindu.



We are a group of volunteers who are working on the same area. would like to see if we can work with you and get your guidance and support.



Thanks & Regards,

TS Rajanganesh

8 K S Madhavan on Mar-24 :

Dear commentators,
You have not understood what the author of this blog is telling. Corruption is promoted for killing Hinduism. Hinduism is being marginalised most effectively by white robed terrorists calling any reaction to the murder of Hinduism as saffron robed terrorism. The truth is that step-by-step, Hinduism is being marginalised and the fact that between 10%-20% of the population in TN and AP are Christian and growing at an unbelievable rate of about 20-50 lakhs (2-5 million) per annum is hidden by maximum corruption money being handed over by Christian propagandists to our politicians and the media - and keeping people like you and true Hindu secularists under misunderstanding by spreading mis-information. Please wake up. We want a true secualr India. For that killing of the most secualr religion namely Hinduism by the world"s most avowedly anti-secular relision namely, Christianity, shall be stopped.

7 Bharat dev on Mar-24 :

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Hi all
I was just wondering why we are all moving away from the actual trouble our contry is facing. "Corruption". Look at mayawathi, look at laloo, Mulayam yadav, or the corrupt bunch of communists; all these people what is thier political interest . Just Money & power. The power to rule or part of it, The power to steal, The power to cover it up and so on..... Then they Divide us religiously, by caste, by sects so that they can rule. Our problem we are still in the same boxes where our ancestors were. Never realized the conspiracy. Our government is formed by just numbers , bunch of P"ks we elect with out much of an alternative choice either ideologically or politically. But after all these years with so much exposure globally , we are all good in one thing. Dividing ourselves in the name of religion.
Kudos" to all; keep it UP , Keep talking about religion............,
Let Mayawathi compete with Saudi sultan,s wives for the best collection of diamonds. Let Laloo make another billion, let Mualayam & Conman Amarsing make another 5000Crore buisness deal & help themselves with commision. Let ......, let.
Who care a damn. We are busy religiously & cast wise concious.

6 Indira Mysore on Mar-23 :

There are several domensions to this issue. Blaming Hindus for all the woes of the minorities is plain stupid.

It is a convenient escape and not wanting to take ownership for one"s own problems. Muslims are a prisoners and victims of their own mullahs and blind beliefs. Every society in this world has people that take things to the extreme. Some Hindus abused their fellow Hindus too. That does not make all of them bad. the self pity of the Christians and Muslims does not help their well being. The Jains, zorastrians and Jews were even smaller in number compared to Christians and muslims . How come they flurished in the same India? There are any number of Christians Muslims that have become successful in the same India. How many Muslims have been successful in India?

If Hindus are the problems for the ills , then why is conversion to Christianity is not working ? The converts suffer under the same caste from which they were promised freedom. Do not practive slaughter house love and call it Jesus Love. Where did the terms dalit Christian come from? Why do they have segregated churches and are abused by uppercaste Christians.? Why are the Bishops hoarding all the money and buying properties. Conversion is a money game. It has nothing to do with religion. Talk to the converts. You will know the real story of the minority mind set. Same sory with Muslims. read the book " masawat Ki Jung" . It talks about the perverted caste system in muslim community. Minorities are being used as pawns in the hands of politiciand and they are playing very well into their hands. They want every thing free without working for it. A democracy cannot survive that way. Those right thinking minorities made it to the top. Abdhul kalam is an example that India has a place for any one that is willing to work hard.

A secular government has no place in a religious place - irrepective of the religion . Hindu tax payers and temple goers have every right to demand how their money is being spent. When it is being used to breed terrorist and destroy cultures ( all for votes), Government is asking for trouble.

Inspite of all the monitory appeasement all these years , muslims educational level is abysmmal. What does the tell you other than the fact that they are not motivated to come out of their own self imposed prisons.

5 Suresh Srinivasan on Mar-23 :

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Dear Appa:

While this article talks well about what is being done to the minorities, have you had a chance to look at articles on how minorities have been treated by the Hindus and more so by the Brahmin Hindus, in India.

It may be a good idea to talk to minorities first hand. It might give you a better perspective to arrive at solutions.

If you look at the issue from a minorities" perspective, you will see a different picture. Since you have already seen the picture through jaundiced (?) eyes of how Hindus are being marginalized, seeing this with a different set of glasses may help you view things differently. See the world from a victim"s eyes.

And then if you write an article on why minorities need to be helped or why laws are passed to help minorities, it will give a breath of fresh air to your work.

Some examples :

1. AP Govt passed legislation to help minorities open Engineering Colleges. The Kamma community quickly seized the opportunity to get "Caste conversion certificates" to grab the opportunity. They would have converted to Islam, Jew, Hindus or whatever to grab the opportunity!
2. Persecution of Christians by Hindus in Govt offices is also legendary.
3. If you see a Hindu Brahmin and a Cobra come towards you, kill the Hindu Brahmin is a saying well known in AP.

There cannot be smoke without fire! To know it, we need to were glasses of the minority.
If you recall, Iyers used to make fun of Iyengaars by saying that Iyengars hate Siva. They do not even utter the word "Kasi" because it has the Syllabe "Si" in it. If you do some research, you find that During the Chalukya Chola rule (especially of Kulothunga Chola), Vaishnavites were persecuted, more so by the Iyers! You ahd seen this depiction in the recent movie "Dasa Avatharam" by Kamal Hassan.

So, please do some research on persecution, see if there is any element of truth, and I look forward to your writing a balanced article.


SS

4 Vasudevan Raghavan on Mar-23 :

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Dear Sri. Srinivasan,

I have read your blog post and I share your anguish at the ongoing onslaught on the Hindu Sanathana Dharma and the tradition and culture of Bharatvarsh. But I have my own doubts whether we Hindus should consider ourselves to be the 85% majority that you have written in your concluding paragraphs.

I have my own take on this issue and I believe that most people in India are not really Hindus - they carry Hindu names and go through the motions of practicing one or the other of the rituals but they do not feel that they are Hindus. Their consciousness is not "Hindu". They probably identify themselves more as "Shaivaites" or "Vaishnavites" or with some such sect.

But the most (vast) majority of the people in India, carrying Hindu names are actually non-Hindus at heart who care too hoots about the traditions and culture and have renounced all the "saatvic" and even "raajasic" elements of our Dharma and have given themselves only to the "taamasic" nature. That is the reason why we Hindus are not able to elect a government that will truly take care of Hindu interests.

The sad fact is that Hindus are a minority in India. God Save Us ALL.

Best regards


Vasudevan
3 g kapuria on Mar-22 :

Sure, there is a great need to awaken Hindus about our impending extinction. The problem is, we do not have any leaders to bring that message. Advani has joined the secularists. Subramanian Swamy heads a tiny party. We need a great communicator for the job.
2 Suresh Srinivasan on Mar-22 :

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This is a good beginning to become an author.

Suresh
1 Jaydeep on Mar-22 :

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I fully back your veiws. I agree that current hindu generations need awakening. Do let me know If i can be of any help to you. I am also trying to propogate the same message at my level.

Jai Hind

Jaydeep
Delhi
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