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Non-Violence to Warlordism - Part II
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News Summary: Two theories of evolution were examined in Part I, Evolution and Human Behavior of a three part essay Evolution and Political Paradigms to understand why the idea of reverting to past for a utopian world is inconsistent with human nature of thinking, creativity and innovation.Both Hinduism and Buddhism advocate non-violence for virtuous living. The dvaita concepts of Kapilas Sankhya system were incorporated into Hinduism and Buddhism. Buddhism is renowned for Middle Path teachings, including pri.....read more in: Non-Violence to Warlordism - Part II

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8 George Mathew on Nov-08 :

Feedback sent to Author: Non-Violence-to-Warlordism

In your entire article, you failed to mention about the "Esseenes" or "Eseenes" who were Jewish and yet did not agree to slavery, meateating, violence and other worldly activities -- they were even celibates.

Is it because you have not heard about the Esseenes or was it that you considered them to be too much of a minority. Yet, they were made of Cohens and Levites, the very cream of Jewish society.

What is "Non Violance" without the Esseenes?

May I have your opinion.
7 030201kishankb on Sep-18 :

Anant V Joshi on Thursday: Appeciate your comment.

In my future articles I will try to rectify this deficiency.

See comment #4 below for some details.
6 Anant V Joshi on Sep-17 :

Feedback sent to Author: Non-Violence-to-Warlordism

What is the thesis of the author? In other words, what is his/her point? It is helpful to know the premise and the conclusion in advance, just like in scientific papers, before the reader decides to even read the article, especially in a series where it is difficult or even impossible to get the author"s drift.
5 kurukshetra on Sep-17 :

Feedback sent to Author: Non-Violence-to-Warlordism

An essential element in Islamic belief & mental make-up as a result of continuous brainwashing is the acquisition of the thrust to advance, overrun and overwhelm.

Integral to this volition and propensity is the slogan, "LAND FOR PEACE".

They have been conquering land after land PROMISING PEACE but LAND STAYED WITH THEM WHILE PEACE AND NON MUSLIMS VANISHED.

In 1947 India gave them LAND FOR PEACE. The land was preposterously more than her OWN FIVE PROVINCES. They went under the hammer of Arabia, to kiss the Book from there, adore the Arabis language and appreciate the camel while dumping the cow, the sanskrit language and all the Indian gurus, mahatmas, avataras and scriptures.

While Nehru and Gandhi went to sleep after this historice defeat and surrender, their rest lasted only a few wseeks.

The MUSLIMS had INVADED Kashmir and again insisted on LAND FOR RPEACE.

We see that it is easy to displace the Hindu "jackals" who forgot their homes in Lahore and Karachi in a second while the MUSLIMS retain the URGE TO RETURN to original LANDS for centureis, e.g., Palestinian threat to Israel, LAND FOR PEACE.

Israel knows, unlike the Hindus adoring the Khans of Bollywood, that if they keep on giving land the whole country will be GONE like Sindh from India.

Please see the following to understand this RELENTLESS threat from Islam:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquests

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Muslim_history

regards
-kuru
17 sep 09



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_conquests

time line;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Muslim_history


4 030201kishankb on Sep-15 :

Nakul Sahibji:
Your observations are valid.

My knowledge of Jainism is limited and for my article I just wanted to show that evolution is responsible for variations in observed infinite human behaviors.

Human behavior can explain how political sciences have evolved; all religions to my knowledge are comingled with some form of social, cultural, economic and political sciences.

As for non-violence I have recounted history to make a point that cultures have gone through cycles; from warlordism before Ashoka converted to Buddhism to non-violence and then back to warlordism as practiced as practiced by followers of monotheism.

In my next article I address how cycle turned from warlordism to democracy; again it is evolution taking place in political science coupled with social, cultural and economic norms. Most constitutional democracies that allow fundamental human rights to all its citizens are secular, eliminating the infallibility of clerics that exists in religious states, both feudal and non-feudal.

Clerics in all religions have promoted at one time or other discrimination based on gender, faith, etc, which is unacceptable to societies that value equal rights and opportunities for all as in secular democracies.
3 nakul on Sep-15 :

Feedback sent to Author: Non-Violence-to-Warlordism

Some doubts! When do Hindus come to known as Hindus, same time as during Buddism or much before? None of our ancient scriptures like Shruti, Smruti, upnishad etc never refered so. What I have known from some reseaches as first Aagams(practiing,Shivagams, Shaktas) then followed Vedas(Knowledge,homa, sacrifice, not much about temple worship), much later Buddisms, Jainism. The way native Indians broadly called Hindus or Sanatanis, before that very same people known as Shivites. Harappan(Pashupati) civilisation is proof for that.
What is your opinion?
2 nakul on Sep-15 :

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Please enlighten on on why Ahimsa attached only to Bhuddist; the most followers of Bhuddist eat meat of any kind and kill for eating too, till today and never restrain from killing for eating. Even self-defences systems like Karate, Kug Fu etc invented or practiced mostly by them? When do they practice ahimsa and how?

Cantrary to it, the Jains" Ahimsa, not much given much attached them or just mentioned about them. Even though they practices it very strictly till today. They have transformed thier lives for up holding Ahimsa. They preach and practices too.

1 Ahimsa of Jains on Sep-15 :

Why Ahimsa attached only to Bhuddist; the most followers of Bhuddist eat meat of any kind and kill for eating too, till today and never restrain from killing for eating. Even self-defences systems like Karate, Kug Fu etc invented or practiced mostly by them? When do they practice ahimsa and how? Cantrary to it, the Jains" Ahimsa, not much given much attached them or just mentioned about them. Even though they practices it very strictly till today. They have transformed thier lives for up holding Ahimsa. They prach and practice.
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Please refrain from giving importance to the bird brained moth by comparing her with Army Chief.
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PH..I am with you. The fault is with the BJP. I cannot understand why they go with the Shiv Sena and MNS goondas.
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 g kapuria at 15:31 Today : I strongly disagree. Secularists are the biggest threat to India. They shelter the fundamentalist muslims and christians. Secularist newsmedia do not report their misdeeds, which gives goondas like Bal and Raj Thackeray a platform.
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CS.. you mean locals from across our western border, right?
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S.Ghosh on Nov-07 : Left parties saved India! Rahul Bajaj [1 comments]

Correct Mr.Bajaj.
However,even the left parties could not save the public properties, Gold, diamond, coal, copper, oil, zink, and other mines. These are all taken over by great evils like Anil Agarwal, Ambani Brothers, De Bears, Laxmi Mittal etc etc, who are buying palaces in London by selling these public properties.
common sense on Nov-07 : Why should Modi apologise, asks Mohan Bhagwat [2 comments]

He should be tried for letting 200+ Hindus killed in guj; foret how many muslims were killed. These hindus definitely did not ask to be killed.
common sense on Nov-07 : "Supportive" Independents gain most in new H... [1 comments]

There is never a free lunch!
common sense on Nov-07 : CSIR asks sacked Indian American scientist t... [1 comments]

Out of job, out of palace. Indian born American should know the american way!
S.Ghosh on Nov-07 : Avoid Vande Mataram in Ramdev"s yoga camp: D... [1 comments]

Avoid India. The heritage of India is Hindu-Buddhists-Jain, all alien to the Muslims. thus, Muslis should all go to Saudi Arabia.
common sense on Nov-07 : What India needs: 500 new cities! [1 comments]

India needs population control more than anything else. It is easy to define what India needs, 500 new cities, or 5000. Need resources!
common sense on Nov-05 : No end to BJP"s troubles [1 comments]

Out with the middlemen - the central leadership. Take the head count and let the majority man rule!
S.Ghosh on Nov-07 : Kyoto Treaty and Environtal Game [6 comments]

People are confused. True, private transport system of USA is a nightmere compare with public transport in Europe and Japan.
But ho is correct: Gore and UN or other scientists?
g kapuria on Nov-05 : India downplays China"s dam construction on ... [2 comments]

As long as Congress party is in power, nobody will worry about the Chinese disregard of India. Even when the Brahmaputra dries up, nothing will happen. We have enemies of the state in power.
g kapuria on Nov-05 : Chidambaram promises rehab of Kashmiri Hindus [3 comments]

Shut up, CS. You know no history. Sikhs who were evicted from Pakistan, received much more govt help. Kashmiri pandits in the camps do not even get enough rice to live on.


 

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