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Inculturation and the Hybrid Bible
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News Summary: It is not at all surprising for me to know that the Archbishop of Mumbai lied to editor, Hindu Voice while answering his question on The New Community Bible during the press meet held on 12th June 2009, 3.30 p.m at the famous Shanmukhanada Hall, Mumbai.Just read the following quote.When the existence of the Church is threatened, she is released from the commandments of morality with unity (of the Church) as the end; the use of every means is sanctified, even cunning, treachery, violence, simony,.....read more in: Inculturation and the Hybrid Bible

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28 Michael Prabhu on Nov-16 :

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Dear Shri Srinivasan,
I thank you for posting my comment on your blog on November 15.
We understand that the "hybrid" New Community Bible is to be released after some revisions in the near future.
Kindly read
India"s new Bible wears a bindi, November 7, 2009,
Rick Westhead, South Asia Bureau/Toronto Star
http://www.thestar.com/living/religion/article/722554--westhead-india-s-new-bible-wears-a-bindi
We wish you all success in your campaign against the borrowing of Hinduism by some Catholic priests and bishops in the name of inculturation.
Regards, Michael Prabhu and Team
27 Michael Prabhu on Nov-15 :

Dear Shri Srinivasan,
I am a Catholic layman, apologist and evangelist. I only recently came across this article written by you.
Like me, there are many Catholic priests and lay persons who are greatly concerned about the "inculturation"-- much of what is the "Hindu-isation" of Catholicism in India.
I say this with absolutely no disrespect to the Hindu religion, but we share your concern about the borrowing of Hindu Scriptures, mantras, rituals, dances, symbols, etc.
This does not have the approval of Rome [the Vatican]. However, gradually, infected priests, bishops and cardinals are convincing Rome that the Church in India has to be inculturated but there are few like me who resist this alarming trend. After all, St Thomas the Apostle, St Francis Xavier and others could never have been accused of inculturating in order to preach the Gospel of Jesus Christ and convert people without using coercion or inducements.
To be fair, I must add that it is NOT for conversion of the minority, though I would have like it to have been the reason, for the present inculturation. Our clergy are mortally afraid of being accused of converting anyone, forcibly or otherwise.
The inculturation that you and I are witnessing and the new "hybrid" Bible are symptoms of the loss of Christian faith by our religious leaders, and it is leading to syncretism.
I am fighting this problem through my ministry and you can read my several articles crusading against what I perceive as aberrations and errors, on my site www.ephesians-511.net.
Sincerely wishing you all the best, and God"s blessings, Michael Prabhu, Chennai

26 samskritham on Sep-29 :

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Christ came to reclaim not to claim. Surely sanskrit has to be reclaimed from satan ans his cronies. Sanskrit is created by God & not by satan, but very cunningly satan has made it his language. we christians will not allow this for long. We will make sanskrit a christian language very soon and that will see the end of sanghi terrorism.
25 anon on Aug-17 :

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Monkey Messiah of Christianiy is a joke with many thinking people in the western hemisphere. His most stupid followers are now to be found in the most ignorant, poverty-ridden and overbreeding areas of the third world like some parts of our own country. Christianity is fast dying in some countries of Europe where it exists today in name only.

Spain just about obliterated the Muslims who had conquered it and took back their country by force. For many hundred years, rice and chutney eating, weakling Hindus did nothing to kill all the Muslims like the Spanish people did through military might. Now they are stuck not only with the Monkey Messiah but also with the Arab Satan from Saudi Arabia. Hindus are responsible for their own physical and intellectual degradation and they are still overbreeding and debilitating themselves into a bleak future of unending misery and national humiliation.
24 anon on Aug-16 :

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The civil society, the intelligentsia and the elite
of the day treated early Christians with disdain and
contempt. Here is a passage from the New Testament:

>>

We are fools for Christ"s sake ...we are despised ...

Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and
thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no
certain dwellingplace; And labour, working with our
own hands: being reviled ...

Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth
of the world, and are the offscouring(Note: refuse,
outcasts) of all things unto this day.

<<


They were engaging in criminal mischief, disturbing
the peace, causing communal disharmony, promoting
enmity and ill will between communities. That"s why
they were treated like filth.

Converted thirld world Christians such as those in
Kerala, Goa, the Northeast and other parts of the
country behave just like the the early, 1st century
Christians to the present day.
23 anon on Aug-14 :

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The previous post is enough proof that Christ was the Osama bin Laden of his day and the church founded after his name is the world"s first fake religious organization that has been engaged in exporting terror, creating division, sowing the seeds of conflict and instigating wars in many parts of the world since its beginnings in Jerusalem.
22 anon on Aug-13 :

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Here are some words from the deranged and false messiah of
Christianity proving that Christianity induces Insanity in its
followers.

Read what the psycho says.

Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send
peace, but a sword.

For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her
mother in law.

And a man"s foes shall be they of his own household.

Now the brother shall betray the brother to death, and the father
the son; and children shall rise up against their parents, and shall
cause them to be put to death.

And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him
will I give power over the nations:

And he shall rule them with a rod of iron; as the vessels of a potter
shall they be broken to shivers ...

And I will give him the morning star.

21 anon on Aug-12 :

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There are two Christs in the New Testament. One is probably a real
person who actually lived. The other is the bogus and nonexistent
divine Christ.

The real Christ, assuming he actually lived, is a black magician, a
street wizard, sorcerer, charlatan, exorcist and devilbuster.

He spits in a blind man"s eyes, we are told, and the man"s vision
is fully restored. He is hungry and comes upon a fig tree. It is
out of season and the tree has only leaves on it, no fruit. He
curses it: "Let there be no fruit from you forever!". And the tree
withers and dies. Great work, Christian godman!

He meets a man possessed by 2,000 demons. The demons inside the
man ask Mr. Christ to send them into 2,000 swine on a nearby hillside.
Christ commands and as soon as the demons enter the swine he drives
them down the steep hillside into the sea where all the poor
animals drown. Another great piece of work by the godman of
Christianity.

This Christ of the New Testament believes that every sickness and
affliction is caused by evil spirits residing in people and
everywhere he goes he performs exorcism on people with serious
illnesses and disabilities and makes them whole and healthy.

After each black magic performance he commands and intimidates his
subject to keep the micraculous event a secret forever and to
never reveal it to anyone. Why the secrecy? Was Christ afraid of
being apprehended by the authorities for quackery?

There are other miracle stories too in the New Testament almost
all of which are copied from earlier sources.

Then there is the divine Christ of the New Testament a fictitious
literary creation patched together by plagiarists with borrowings
from the literatures and religions of other nations.
20 S. Singh on Aug-12 :

Old Testament itself is manipulated "history". Now they have Sanskrit Bible with plagiarized slokas all crafted to predict the coming of the colonizer as messiah in the Western Bible. Old testament is same with regard to New Testament. We are only looking at the final result of greco-roman colonial manipulation of Canaanite traditions.
19 anon on Aug-12 :

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The New Testament, a plagiarists" work, borrows from many earlier sources of world literature.

Its primary source is the Old Testament, which among other things, it uses to claim that the Christian godman came to fulfil Old Testament prophecies.

The "New" in the New Testament is a compilation of selected passages, teachings, declarations, stories and descriptions of events from the vast writings of Hinduism and Buddhism. Many passages in the NT are verbatim copies or rewrites hijacked from ancient Indian literature.
18 hindu on Aug-12 :

christian take prominence in western news but hindus can go to hell????????/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/8196013.stm


17 S. Singh on Aug-11 :

Genocidal Christianity is Roman war propaganda against the Jews and nonwhites. New testament was written by Romans to demean and destroy Judaism. Titus Flavius who destroyed the Jewish Temple commissioned the Christian hoax as a replacement for Judaism. Titus" Flavius military campaign against Jerusalem was transformed into Jesus" ministry against Judaism

Search "Joseph Atwill" -author Caesar"s Messiah

See youtube video- watch?v=dCNJf83bqjs
16 anon on Aug-11 :

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If you are a serious and educated person, please go to the following page and read it in its entirety:

http://www.jesusisbuddha.com/thundy.html


15 anon on Aug-11 :

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Devaki holding Baby Krishna is the original prototype of the later Christian copy of Mary holding Baby Jesus.

14 Vijayalakshmi on Aug-11 :

Even "OM",the Pranava mantram and Gayatri mantram have been plagiarised by them. This is nothing but downright fraud! I happened to pass by a place called Kolathur in Chennai, when I saw a place of worship. It looked deceptively Hindu. I read the words "Idho un Thaai"(Here is your Mother),written on the top.When I looked at the image,I was shocked to find that it was an idol of Mary swathed in a sari,covering her head with the palloo!It was preposterous and meant to deceive the illiterate and gullible Hindus!

Hindus must take steps to educate the gullible ones about the fraudulent religion of christianity.The Bible was written and re-written many times.There was a time when King James was so shocked by the vulgarity in the Bible that he re-wrote it completely.
Anybody can follow Hindu religion, but trying to superimpose christianity on Hinduism must be strongly opposed.

I used to be a truly secular person. Now,with all these fraudulent methods of "inculturation",I have developed total contempt for christianity, because this religion is a political one and has nothing to do with spirituality.



13 anon on Aug-09 :

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This site has enlightening information on the religion called Christianity.

http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/

12 anon on Aug-09 :

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Go to http://www.jesusisbuddha.com/ and click on every link at the
top - CLT, CV for CL, Q=MSV+SDP, et cetera - for more information.

11 anon on Aug-07 :

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Hindus are underfed and undernourished. Optimum population for the country is about 30 to 50 million. No more than a hundred million people should live in the country. Instead there are 1.1 billion stick figures in various stages of starvation. Too many medieval monkey languages along with widespread protein deficiency have reduced the Hindu national IQ to about 80. There should be one language - the national language. And perhaps one international language operating in the country. Hindus lack the spirit, the motivation and the genius to create such a country. Instead they wallow in self-pity, constantly complaining about the humiliations and indignities heaped upon them by their erstwhile foreign rulers and masters. Third world monkey people suffering from all manner of insecurities and inferiorities rather than doing what it takes to rise to the top.
10 Jai on Aug-07 :

Coward anon cant show true face hiding under his mothers petticoat.Also we Hindus are not subhuman or barbaric like you.Fight in open and away from the shields of women &children.
9 anon on Aug-07 :

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Hindus: Third world effeminate whining underweight half-size monkeys
8 Swami Devananda Sara on Jul-28 :

It is important that Hindus (and Christians) be made aware of what the Catholic Bishops Council of India is up to vis-a-vis inculturation. The hybrid bible was their pet project and they promoted it. Now it has been withdrawn, but too late ...

For an overview of The New Indian Bible with a reproduction of its illustration of a dancing Jesus, go to

For the latest on the inculturation drama as it is practiced in the US, go to
7 Chubby on Jul-21 :

I wonder what happened to those Red Indians, after the arrival of Coloumbus!
6 Jimmy Shultz on Jul-20 :

Ask where from the Black descendents of slaves came from?

Churches openly encouraged slave trade, and many churches owned slaves.

Slavery derives its sanction in old testament. Please read about Translatlantic slave trade.

What happened to the indigenous peopls of Americas is even worse, millions were slaughtered. Read American holocaust by David Stannard, Moron.
5 S. Singh on Jul-19 :

>>The Bible is not responsible for their crimes.>>

This is a nice fantasy. Unceasing Antisemitism and Heathen baiting is the sole lesson to be derived out of the bible. The Bible was constructed to replace the history of a conquered people and that is why it fits so well with western colonialism.
4 D.Morgan on Jul-18 :

for Biblical absurdities see: http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/donald_morgan/absurd.html
3 A.Moron on Jul-15 :

Lots of Mahanta, Guru Maharajs are nothing but rapists. Would you blame Bhagwat Gita for their crimes.
There is nothing wrong with The Bible, it is a Holy book; but of course the there were lots of Pope who had raped, produced Children and stolen money. The Bible is not responsible for their crimes.

2 Gigi Mol on Jul-15 :

Sister Jesme"wrote about her experiences in a church in kerala. Her life experinces should be an eye opener to anyone who wants to join the church as a novice.Fathers are capable of anything and everything under Sun. Hybrid Bible is child"s play for them.
1 jose escriva on Jul-10 :

What ever said to the best of my knowledge is indisputable and correct.When Vatican farted Inculturation was born.
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